WikiLeaks Uncovers War Scenario between Greece & Turkey

WikiLeaks published an article relevant to the bilateral relationship between Greece and Turkey.
According to leaked documents, the American embassy in Ankara insists that Turkey planned to cause a convulsion at the Greek abuttals in order to invade the north side of Evros. The document came into publicity the last days.  It says that the executive officers know that a coup d’état will be incited so they made scenarios which would justify their actions. This document is extremely important.  After its publication, the U.S. confirmed an attack was about to be conducted against Greece in 2003. In addition they imply that the Turkish Army will continue to cause such convulsions in their relationship with Greece.



  • Nikolas

    Giati den ypaxei pu8ena allou afth h eidhsh?

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  • dimitris

    Why haven’t had hear anything yet, by greek news?

  • xerbi

    Ας τα διαδωσουμε όλοι με μαιλ, στα διάφορα φορουμ άλλα και με προσωπική κουβέντα

  • Nobofy

    No mention is made of EVROS nor does it read like “intervention” means invading Greece. The term “intervention” could very much mean intervening domestically (Turkey) :
    (SBU) “Sledgehammer,” the latest alleged plot, was
    allegedly drafted in 2003 by the Turkish First Army, under
    its then-commander Gen. Cetin Dogan. The plan, which has
    been denied by both the military and retired General Dogan,
    involved false-flag bombing of mosques and efforts to provoke
    a military crisis with Greece in order to create the
    conditions for a military intervention. The plan, as
    revealed by “Taraf” on January 20 — a day before the
    Constitutional Court’s decision overturning the law allowing
    civilian jurisdiction over certain offenses committed by the
    military — allegedly included lists of names of politicians
    and journalists to be arrested, as well as names of
    politicians who would serve in a new government after the
    removal of the AKP.

  • akaka

    ela nte….

  • gbilios

    1996 – turkish destroyer shot down a greek helicopter gunship..greek government called it an accident because they didn’t want to cause a panic..greece government can’t defend itself because america is on turkey side. greece still can’t defend itself..

  • gbilios

    good on ya wikyleaks..more info much appreciated.

  • Paris Velissaris

    Agree completely with Nobofy.

    Have read the cable, and the information is vague and does not, in any terms mean a military war with Greece.

  • http://ammoshos@aol.com The Spartan

    WHAT WE SAY TO THE TURKS IS >>>> MOLON LAVE >>>>>

  • yonca

    I have never heard such an info. but dont get affected easily without looking from Turkey’s side. if you interested I can tell you simply that in last nearly 10 years of Turkish media, only Cyprus arguements are declerated between Greece in serious way. Turkish attitude is clearly more positive than it was, now even continental shelf is on the topic to negotiate between Grecee to please them. Positive look to Grecee is not only a diplomatical issue, but also media and business world is more interested into relationship between Grecee. Simply, check how toursim increased to Grecee and economical facilities to Grecee. Regards from Turkey.

  • Sotos

    Since when MILITARY intervention does not mean what I think it means?

  • kb

    i am greek. i live and grew up in New York. yia sas

    i think a lot of people are reading this backwards

    this cable is about debunking a plot/rumor to overthrow the current government (AKP) through military intervention by creating a military crisis with greece. i seriously doubt a war or an attempt at a land grab. that would be stupid of turkey, and they know that

    since this leak is more about turkish domestic politics, it is more worrisome for a secular turk than a greek. it says that even without any proof of such a plot – notice the heavy use of the word “alleged” – the islamists have such a deep mistrust of the military that they believe the generals would blow up a major mosque in a major city in order to overthrow AKP.

    whether the plot is true or not, the fact that the turkish army is seen as traitors by government supporters is not good news for turkey

    the analysis is that the turkish gov’t and turkish army are in full distrust of each other

  • yonca

    Hi kb, you are right in the point of secular turks worries of current government’s (Akp)strenght and influence on public that they had it with its confidance on economical stability in the period of the world crisis and more liberal growth after the economical depression of 2001 in Turkey. Even a lot liberal – seculars are complicated about; if Akp is a threat for secular regime or are they just more conservatives. This complication is because Akp reached people in wider range that has never happend before, for a party which has some hidden and unhidden close relations between some islamic groups. So this party is a serious worry for me too!

    About Grecee, firstly as you said military deals with Akp’s enervating on their policy and influence, but that would be very imaginary trying to use military against Grecee and so get military in difficulty. Cause firstly military is intelligent enough to not let a big play on them and secondly from the broken expreinces of the past, akp knows to get more strength they should not create crisis and doubts that they can not convince its people. Making diplomacy against Grecee not brings something good to them, but just can be a prove of their weaknes of sincerity and will bring a huge challange of a big crisis between europe and inside the country. so even for the issue between Israil, Akp is just trying to use it by making a visual show to satisfy its role on Islamic world. But on the other hand, they are keeping their commerce with Israel. Through Israil conflict Akp can convince its public easier, and can get the sempathy of Islamic world in easy and cheap way, but Greek conflict would not bring any benefit but only a serious crisis for sure to Akp.

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  • atilla80

    Turks will eventually get those islands what is rightfully ours.

  • http://greece.greekreporter.com/2010/11/30/wikileaks-uncovers-scenario-for-war-between-greece-and-turkey/ MICHO

    To atilla80.

    I feel sorry for you. You obviously lack inteligence in history or politics. I suggest you do some research before you open your mouth.
    Please do not try to be a hero, because there are plenty of heros in Greece too. In the end alot of dead children for nothing. You only a stoog for the Americans.

  • Loukas Filippou

    It’s all a political game behind close doors…nobody knows what is really hapenning…

  • mark

    Alittla is a Armenian hater who goes in Turkish sites and spew hatred of the Turks pretending to be Greek and comes here pretends to be Turk
    stop, Turks have no interest of any land they have plenty of the best land in the World, if I was a ailien and looking for a nice place to land it would be Turkey, and they are satisfied with it, they want to join in EU to open the borders but if EU Nazi;sm live and well, Turks thinks they better off with not joining in and they do not want to be call PIIGS either they dont even eat one
    so Turks will just do fine, it is EU should worry, when all those lons need to be paid Greeks are going to squeeze more olive oil for German and French tables basically economic slavery to masters, Greeks should get their money back and be competitive and sell some thing instead of hand out END

  • Gr-ab

    To mark,
    Hi, i am Greek and i could not agree more with what you said.
    In my point of view IF Greece and Turkey had a military alliance and a commerce agreement they would both be rich and they would both be feared because they would have the power to control 3 continents (Europe, Asia and Africa). But alas americans and their european friends will never let this happen.
    You have yours we have ours and if we work together we could have THEIRS too!!

  • anonymous 2

    If turkey had all the land and the best for that matter of fact why are they making claims of greek island and why are you continously coming into our airspace. Turkey is playing dangerous games.The people in your armed forces have become big headed because of the successful invasion of Cyprus but they are fooled if greece was allowed to react it would have been a different story thank to the pressure from you know who (the country that Turks bow too)
    If Turkey has any plans to attack go for it it will damage the image of Turkey. Turkey Must leave us alone and they should concentrate on their own problems, they cant even defeat the kurdish insurgents how can they defeat Greece If they invade alot of Turkish Mother will be crying because we will fight hard because we never forget what you people have done us in the past the fire still burns inside us and will not allow it to happen again. We have defeated you before and we can do it again. Turkey is arrorgant because of the support the americans have for them but when this support comes to an end turkey will no longer feel so great, the americans turn a blind eye to all the wrong that you do

  • Kingdomofgreece

    We are ever growing in population in Greece, we could use a bigger country. I think Greece will take over Turkey one day, this time we will do it better than you guys did, we shall not leave any of you standing.

  • Kingdomofgreece

    All Turks luck inteligence. Most don’t even know how to read! The guy just needs to go back to his cave and sit on a stone and first figer out how to light a fire. lol

  • Smiley

    Luck? Fascists of the world eat shit.

  • Skata

    Fae skata.

  • kostas

    MOLON LAVE …….YOU MOTHER FUCKER WE DID YOU ONCE WE DO YOU AGAIN

  • American

    russia created greece and bulgaria and other balkan countries (first, these colony supported soviets). today, russia is collapsing and there will not be a country such as russia in the 2050. Turkey is a power in the middle east and east europe and west asia right now. Turkey will be a super power in the 2050. Turkey will create a new country in the asia and south side of russia. Turkish population will be 700 millions at that time, and Turkey will get big grounds from russia. I am so sure, at that time, Turkey will want to invade all greece, bulgaria, romania,hungary,bosnia,macedonia,albenia,kosova,serbia bla bla…. Usa is losing her power day by day, and e.u does not even have an army. Thats why Turks are working with korea and japan. Because Turkey will be a neighbour of china. I am so sure, Turks wanna create a Turkish country in the middle asia firstly. After than, Turks will want to invade balkans. And finally, they will want to use their powers on the middle east and north africa. England and France are so far away to stop Turkish army. I think we will never see a country such as greece in the humanity life, because Turks move greeks to asia as slave after an invasion. Thats so clear. Greeks played their cars so wrong

  • Sam

     hard to take an illiterate seriously 

  • Gino Nikolaou

    I really don t care what you have to say. Greece was not created by Russia… It was created after the Greek War of Independence in 1821-1828. The turks also tried to move Greeks to Egypt during 1825 and that s why the european countries defeated turkey in 1827, in Navarino. It is, without any doubt, IMPOSSIBLE to predict what s going to happen. If i could try to make an assuption of what s Turkey gonna be like in 2050, i d have to say that it would be probably divided in several pieces. Only the one over the Aegean Sea and the territories of Constantinople shall join the EU. the rest, will be mailny Kurdic ar Syrian.

  • Dimitris_sk

    I AM FROM GREECE MY NAME IS ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣ AND I HAVE TO SAY SOME THINGS……FIRST WORLD CRISIS IS FAKEE FAKE FAKE FAKE!!!!!! CREATED BY ROTHCHLINDS!!!!!!!! TURKEY SOME DAY IS GONNA BE DESTROYED BY RUSSIA AND WILL WE TAKE BACK ΚΩΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΥΠΟΛΗ!!!!GEORGE PAPANDREOY IS MASON!!!!! AND NEW WORLD ORDER IS HERE AND WE MUST WAKE UP BECAUSE ALL PLANET BELONG IN DAMM ILLUMINATI!!!!!  

  • Turania

    greece is a so poor country. turkey dont need to use a military to invade all greece. greeks cant find foods to eat. turkey’s economy is A+, and turkey will be 9th biggest economy at 2050 (7 trillion usd). greek politicians are liers, they never think greek people, they always think their own families, always same families manage greece government. if turkey invades greece, greek people may find some foods to eat. actually, noone wanna invade greece, because greece’s debt is almost 1 trillion usd(greece’s economy is only 300 billions usd).. greek people already invaded their future by always electing same lier politicians. so, turkish army did not invade greece, but greek politicans invaded greece’s next 75 years.

  • Petros

    There is no way any invation against a european country to last. Not because of other european countries or NATO will help… But because the quality of greek people and in general the european mentality is much stronger than a semi-arabic, multinational, semi-democratic, semi-kurdic country. Moreover even if turkish army won the greek tactical (very doubtfull), the greek terrain is perfect for guerilla war… Let’s face it, even the americans with their allies have failed in conquering countries as iraq and afghanistan, any effort of turkey to conquer one inch of greek land would fail!…

  • orderofdragon

    turks are mongols…thats you no one cares what thay say or do …do you see any one talking about mongolia ,thats where all turks are from ,thats why no one gives a shiiiit about them

  • Markusjan

    U.S is a super power for the next at least 100 years. And if you think we will wait till you become a regional player or superpower without whacking you back to stone age you are as delusional sandnigger “Abid” like the rest of the Arabs. Or maybe the Israelis do you first…..

  • Pronoia23

    1. 700 million with or without minorities?
    2. which turkish “army”? That one that losing power over the kurdish areas of turkey or the army confront kurdish state of irak alongside with israel?

  • Pronoia23

    few years is between the defeat of 1922 and the win of 1940 for greece. Eventually we have the leader and we have the party…we will die as Greek under the banner of LAOS party..

  • ST

    You are an illiterate retart just like your mongol cousins

  • N Ravadeli

    another illiterate turk retard

  • Kos

    Greece is a poor country, yes and you believe that Turkey is rich???
    As I mentioned in a previous post, the US, for it’s own strategic reasons has propped up Turkey and in doing so has made it believe that it is special, that it is a superpower etc. Look at the Turkish economical data and you will all realise that it is not a lot better than Greece financially and it is infact getting worse. Take the fact that the majority of the population still lives as they did 100 years ago you will realise that it is many times worse than Greece.
    Let me make clear that I hope that things can be settled without a war and loss of lives, but if war did break out, on it’s own, Turkey can never take Greece, or anyone else for that matter. In 1974, Turkey invaded a 3rd of Cyprus and used it’s full military might, Airforce, Navy, army etc. plus US and UK assistance against a small Cyprus with only a National guard to protect it and the timing was set because Greece was coming out of dictatorship and had massive problems. At the time, the US and UK decided to Tell Turkey that “this is your chance and we will help you”. But if you get the full facts, Turkey even sank their own new Destroyer during this campaign, that’s a great military superpower for you.

  • Asprouliarhs

    no way greece existed centuries before russia and russia took the culture and orthodoxy from greeks-byzantines

  • Jblackwell

    YOU AREA IDIOT 

  • Jblackwell

    can you read? Can You spell Lol Idiot

  • Yiannako

    riiiiiight…. he is an “American”