Greece’s Golden Dawn Embracing Extremist Role

“We feel disgusted in the Parliament,” Golden Dawn’s leader Nikolaos Michaloliakos said in August. (Reuters)

ATHENS –  Although Greece country suffers through a crushing economic crisis, most citizens are not desperate enough to embrace the hate rhetoric and immigrant-bashing of the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party.

“They have a bad history and violence breeds violence,” Athens resident Stavros Petropoulos, 35, told Southeast European Times. “People are in despair, but Golden Dawn is a trend and they will be over.”

The extremist group, which was regarded as a joke three years ago when it won only 0.29 percent in elections, got 6.97 percent this year to garner 18 parliamentary seats on an anti-immigrant platform and now has the support of 10 to 12 percent of voters, polls show.

But its leaders have been anything but parliamentarian after taking their seats. Several of its MPs took part in a party raid, smashing immigrants’ stalls at a local fair, causing some to call for authorities to pull their political immunity.

The neo-Nazi party embraces an extremist ideology. They promised to rid the country of illegal immigrants and plant landmines on the borders to make sure no more came in. They put up hate flyers around Athens’ gay club district. They said people with disabilities were undesirable. They even threatened to unleash “stormtroopers” on Greece.

Founded in the early 1980’s by backers of the vicious military junta that governed Greece from 1967 to 1974 and tortured opponents, Golden Dawn party members wear black T-shirts bearing the meander, an ancient symbol that resembles a swastika. It gives away food and calls for blood banks for Greeks only, conjuring recollections of Aryan superiority messages in Nazi Germany.

Golden Dawn’s leader Nikolaos Michaloliakos, who has twice been imprisoned and tossed out of the military, gives bombastic speeches against those he perceives as enemies, including the parliament, and has targeted the disaffected and dismissed criticism and suggestions the party should be banned. He would not talk to SETimes despite repeated requests for interviews.

With nearly 2 million people out of work and the country’s politicians and rich elite above the fray, Golden Dawn has associated itself with the working class and poor, and played on the fears of illegal immigrants overrunning the country, who they blame for a surge in crime. PASOK leader Evangelos Venizelos said, however, that disdain for Golden Dawn is widespread among the mainstream parties. “Parliament cannot become a place for those nostalgic for fascism and Nazism,” he said.

George Tzogopoulos, a research fellow at the Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy (ELIAMEP) in Athens, said the party’s popularity should not be a surprise. “Its rise is a normal phenomenon in a time of crisis,” he told SETimes. “When people suffer, they tend to endorse the rhetoric of extreme parties.”

Yiorgos Tsalikis, 45, a clerk at a fast food outlet in an Athens neighborhood said many Greeks who support Golden Dawn don’t like what it stands for, but have given up on the country’s leaders. “It’s because of the despair people feel, they are desperate and don’t trust politicians,” he told SETimes.

Prime Minister Antonis Samaras, overseeing an uneasy coalition with his otherwise rivals, the PASOK Socialists and the tiny Democratic Left, has been forced to take a harder turn to the right, ordering a roundup of illegal immigrants to be put in detention centers around the country. “Many Greeks are for different reasons disappointed by the established political system and they express this disappointment, or anger by voting for Golden Dawn which appears itself as an anti-systemic movement,” Klapsis said.

Alex Afouxenidis, a sociologist at the Athens-based National Centre of Social Research told SETimes that, “Golden Dawn managed to bring together a number of people who existed across the established political spectrum. There have always been many, many people in Greece with such opinions, extreme right wing, racist, and highly conservative.”

“I don’t like them, but they are the only party that does something,” Yiota Lazarou, 18, told SETimes. Alexandros Sakellariou, a sociologist and researcher at Panteion University in Athens, told SETimes that he’s worried that young Greeks especially are ignorant of the Nazi occupation of Greece and atrocities. “This means that the ground is fertile for Golden Dawn,” he said, adding that he thinks the party is dangerous.

“They attack immigrants and other social or religious groups and homosexuals and Muslims, threatening them that they are the next to come. Golden Dawn does not have any legitimate place in the government, but it does have a legitimate place in the political arena from the moment it is a legitimate political party,” he said.

 (Reprinted by permission of Southeast European Times, www.setimes.com)

 


  • Leo

    Golden Dawn = Cunts. Given the normal rate of stupidity, no wonder 10-11 percent of Greeks support them. 

  • Anonomous

    “They promised to rid the country of illegal immigrants”

    Deporting illegals is not extremist. In fact I would argue those that constantly apologize for illegals are extremists (and possibly treasonous cowards either to afraid to stand up for their country or too busy showing everyone how we are all “comrades”).

    What is extremist about GD is some of their supporters going around attacking illegals as well as their racists rhetoric

  • Anonymous

     As much as I deplore GD far left extremism is a far bigger problem in Greece (numerically speaking).

    For instances when there are constant strikes… and followup riots….. where property is damaged and people sometimes injured (sometimes even killed) some in the left media try to manipulatively frame these these violent hooligans as “protesters” rather than what they typically are FAR LEFTIST EXTREMISTS.

    Unless the left also makes attempts to speak out against its own extremists I’m sad to say that the far right is only going to be encouraged further. Even some of the moderate left’s weak response to both illegals and FYROM issue only fuels extreme nationalism  many Greeks fear their identity and nation is under non-so-subtle attack.  (which it is)

    Greeks didn’t suddenly become Nazis. GD popularity has come because it filled a political vacuum that the middle parties failed to address these last few years (particularly ones on the left). The defence of our country.

  • Anonymous

    ELIAMEP (based in London not Greece) isn’t really a “Greek” organization. It’s vice president is Thanos Veremis of notorious 1821 fame (whose talked hiimself out of his Greek identity and doesn’t see himself as a “real” Greek). Call it a hunch my bet is the “sociologist” mentioned is likely a reference to someone that’s left on the political spectrum that also doesn’t see themselves as a “real” Greek.. In fact I bet everyone SETimes quotes are similar anti-nationalist elements in Greece.

    For anyone that doesn’t know what the SETimes represents….its not some objective newspaper. It is sponsored by the US European
    Command! (i.e. a front for US government)
    http://setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/document/setimes/footer/about/about

    While I don’t approve of GD extremists, I also don’t approve of the antiHellenic bigots  trying to subtly redefine our identity.The name of our county, our culture, our language, our identity… all relate to ancient Greeks not eskimos.. Any one that requires we give up our identity to be our “friends” are racist against Greeks. What they are effectively asking for is our ethnic suicide. Friends don’t don’t ask that of friends.

    I will start to take so-called “newspapers” like SETimes seriously when they manage to report “minor” details like this on name dispute (rather than betray Nato ally Greece by dishonestly pretending they don’t notice FYROM’s sudden change into “ancient Macedonians” and “United Macedonia” rhetoric to hide their shame for referecing them as “Macedoonians”)

     

    “This (US)
    Government considers talk of Macedonian “nation”, Macedonian
    “Fatherland”, or Macedonia “national consciousness” to be
    unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees
    in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against
    Greece” – US State Department Dec, 1944 (Foreign Relations Vol. VIII
    Washington D.C. Circular Airgram – 868.014/26)

    http://tinyurl.com/nel46d

    ‘We do not claim to
    be descendants of Alexander the Great.’ – FYROM’S Ambassador Ljubica Acevshka,
    speech to US representatives in Washington on January 22 1999

    On
    November 4, 2004, two days after the re-election of President George W. Bush,
    his administration unilaterally recognized the “Republic of Macedonia.” 
    This action not only abrogated geographic and historic fact, but it also has
    unleashed a dangerous epidemic of historical revisionism, of which the most
    obvious symptom is the misappropriation by the government in
    Skopje of the most famous of Macedonians, Alexander the Great.
    http://macedonia-evidence.org/documentation.html

  • Anonymous

    According to wiikpedia ELLIAMP’s goal is to  train professionals (civil servants, politicians, journalists and academics, among others in a variety of areas such as conflict prevention,

    In other words… people that are afraid to stand up for principles and protect out country because they are cowards. They avoid conflict with any foreign “comrades” at all costs to the point they are prepared to slowly give away our people’s very identity.

    This is why I say they are really based out of Lodon Washington or Brussels not Athens as they claim. They care nothing for Greek people only that they get publicity and approval from foreign colleagues (ala anti-Greek trollers at the Guardian and  New York Times that today constantly dishonestly pretend they don’t notice FYROM’s attempts to usurp our identity and irredentism)

    Oxi.

    Greece is moral wrong with its fiances but not in the name dispute. In the name dispute those that disrespected Greece and referenced FYROM as “Macedonians”  are in the moral wrong (despite their numbers). This is one line that cannot be crossed. Any so-called “Greek” that wants to cross it  has ceased to  be a representative of the Greek people. Their usage of the name “Greek” is in a non-Greek context. As such they have effectively redefined themselves as non-Greek people despite their bizarre usage of the name Greek to describe themselves.

    For Greeks… i.e. those  that do care about keeping our connection to ancient Greeks alive….I highly recommend you form your own hellenic organizations that exclude such pseudo-“Greeks” to protect the interests of the Greek people and interests from the antiHellenes trolling the Greek people. This is not the same as saying supporting racist groups like Golden Dawn. Loving and wanting to protect the Greek people and culture does not require hating everyone else.

     

  • Anonymous

    Andy… a few constructive criticisms.I don’t mind the articles against GD (who I myself find offensive) however you also need to be more objective not just push leftist positions. There need to be far more articles also pointing out massive far leftist violence (rather than trying to frame violent rioters as “protestors” when you very well know most of them are far leftist extremists)In addition where are the articles on FYROM’s constant provocations? This is the “Greek” reporter no? If you claim to speak for Greeks, then this issue is important to most Greeks. Don’t hide from it to appease foreign colleagues at expense of Greek people.I realize your associates at the Guardian might not like to print articles about the FYROM issue but they are the ones on the moral wrong on this issue not  Greece. Greeks warned not to recognize FYROM in good faith 20 years ago in good faith and not only were ignored by pretenious self-declared experts but even mocked (racism against Greeks IMO).  As FYROM’s sudden identity change into “ancient Macedonians” show (aka self-identifying Greeks) and constantly “United Macedonia” irredentist rhetoric shows… we were right all along.Unfortunately some of FYROM’s apologists that claim to speak for ancient history… can’t seem to speak for history in their own lifetime. Instead the constantly evade publishing articles denoucing FYROM’s behavior.   They would be be writing about FYROM’s irredentism if they had a shred of objectivity around this issue. (rather than trying to hide their shame for betraying Greece referencing FYROM as “macedonia”). Despite that they claim one thing publicly to foreigners, they do another in practice among themselves FYROM’s irredentism against Greek and attempts to usurp our very identity is state sponsered. An attempt at identity theft of an individual is a crime.  Identity theft of a nation is attempted genocide. The sort of behaviour below (common in FYROM today) are acts of war not something that should be ignored and triivialized.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpFQUH_9VPA

  • FactChecker

    Southeast European Times puts its funding source out front and is the only news media that does not allow any unnamed sources – not even Presidents or Prime Ministers – and its agenda is reporting the truth, unlike Greek newspapers that shill for political parties, or its fronts who appear here for them.

  • John

    Greece has two dogs on either side. ND and Syriza. One barks and occasionally bites, the other has nation destroying rabies and likely to win power. 

    Sad.

  • Anonymous

     So what if they put their funding source upfront. You think they are using US taxpayer dollars to push Greek national interests? If they had a shread of moral credibility or objectivity they would be denouncing FYROM’s behavior instead of trying to whitewash it (largely because Bush recognzied FYROM “coinicidentally” after they sent troops to Iraq)

  • Anonymous

     I think “factchecker” needs to check his facts and get back to us.

  • Anonymous

    Hey “factchecker” in case you haven’t notice the SeTimes references the former self-identifying Bulgarians and Serbians of FYROM as “Macedonians” and dishoneslty pretends they don’t notice their sudden identity quick change into “ancient Macedonians” and constant “United Macedonia” irredentist rhetoric. (IMO to hide their shame and reacism towards Greeks for supporting FYROM)

    Where are the articles by historians and politicians denoucing FYROM’s behavior? How do you think Americans would react if Mexican govenrment declared taught their schoolchilderen they were the “real” americans and that 1/3 of the US was “American occupied Mexico”. You think they would be quiet about it like you want greeks to be?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpFQUH_9VPA

  • Anonymous

     

    “This house is
    honored this evening in the privilege of entertaining the heads of a state to
    which all Western civilization will be forever indebted. Now this evening I
    shall not weary you with reciting those things which every schoolboy and every
    schoolgirl knows about the great achievements of Greece in science and art and
    philosophy. In all those things they have helped to make our Nation’s and other
    Western Nations’ civilization what it is. ” – US President Eisenhower”

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=9749&st=greece&st1=

    “Greece faces great
    difficulty in absorbing the refugees of Greek origin who are being driven out
    of the Balkan satellites by the communists. Thus, the brutal policies of Soviet
    tyranny are aggravating overcrowded conditions which are already a danger to
    the stability of these free nations. ” – US President Truman… whose administration not only claimed there was no such thing as an “ethnic Macedonian”… but supplied Greeks the weapons to expel the Slavic communist propagandist promoting this gibberish in Greece.
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=14435&st=greece&st1=

    So the fair question arises “factchecker”…..

    why aren’t these facts being reported by SeTimes?

  • Anonymous

     ND are not extremists GD and Syriza are the extremists.

  • Anonymous

     Hey “factchecker”.. I suggest you first check your facts before shilling for US military funded media sources . For instance when was the last time the Setimes mentioned “minor” details like this about name dispute?

     
    “The Department has noted with considerable apprehension increasing propaganda rumors and semi-official statements in favor of an autonomous Macedonia, emanating principally from Bulgaria, but also from Yugoslav Partisan and other sources, with the implication that Greek territory would be included in the projected state.

    This (US) Government considers talk of Macedonian “nation”, Macedonian “Fatherland”, or Macedonia “national consciousness” to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece.

     The approved policy of this Government is to oppose any revival of the Macedonian issue as related to Greece. The Greek section of Macedonia is largely inhabited by Greeks, and the Greek people are almost unanimously opposed to the creation of a Macedonian state. Allegations of serious Greek participation in any such agitation can be assumed to be false. This Government would regard as responsible any Government or group of Governments tolerating or encouraging menacing or aggressive acts of “Macedonian Forces” against Greece.

    U.S State Department Foreign Relations Vol. VIII Washington D.C. Circular Airgram – 868.014/26 Dec. 1944)

    ….

    Whether its due to some Americans trying to disrespectfully interfere in
    Greece politics or racism against Greeks is largely irrelevent from my
    perspective.

    Until Setimes.com gets serious with criticizing FYROM’s attempts to usurp our identity (and mentions details like the above) I can’t take any claims of objectivity seriously. Given their one sided reporting on the FYROM issue the Setimes has no credibility as an objective news source . (reporting by omission of key facts is hardly intellectually or morally credible)

    Those who live in
    Skopje and say that that is Macedon and Alexander’s homeland are as IGNORANT
    and OUTRAGEOUS as if someone was to say that Oxford University was really
    in Belarus and Oxford was Minsk” – Prof. Robin Lane
    Fox of Oxford University

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mIRe5tnqRKM#t=5s

  • Anonymous

     “factchecker” appears to not know his facts about Setimes lobsided reporting on name issue. If “truth” was its concern… why no mention about “minor” details like this now they FYROM have suddenly become “descendents of ancient Macedonains” and constantly insinuate my soverign country is “Greek occupied Macedonia”. Or are you with a straight face going to pretentiously lecture us about “truth” wjo;e pretending you  haven’t noticed either too?

    ‘We are not related
    to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the
    Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.’
    – FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper,
    February 24 1999

     

    “We are Slavs who came to this area in
    the sixth century … We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians” –
    Kiro Gligorov, FYROM’s first President
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBB8UjOHG_8

    ‘We do not claim to
    be descendants of Alexander the Great.’ – FYROM’S Ambassador Ljubica Acevshka,
    speech to US representatives in Washington on January 22 1999

    “The creation
    of the Macedonian nation, for almost half of a century, was done in a condition
    of single-party dictatorship. In those times, there was no difference between
    science and ideology, so the “Macedonian” historiography, unopposed by anybody,
    comfortably performed a selection of the historic material from which the
    “Macedonian” identity was created. There is nothing atypical here for the
    process of the creation of any modern nation, except when falsification from
    the type of substitution of the word “Bulgarian” with the word “Macedonian”
    were made.” (Denko Maleski, former Minister of foreign affairs of FYROM
    from 1991 to 1993 in an interview to FYROM newspaper Utrinski Vesnik)

    Today….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpFQUH_9VPA

  • Anonymous

     Today FYROM ultra nationalists are portrayed as “victims” to Greeks by some American based NGOs and media (who decided to reference FYROM as “Macedonians” against Greek objections). Long forgotten is that American government and peopel were the very ones that supported Greeks against this fake ethnic group that was specifically formed in a manipulative attempt to threaten Greece. (primarily by cold war communists. Prior to Yugoslav communists the majority of them self-identified as Macedonian in a ethnic Bulgarian context)

    Why does Setimes.com constantly fail to mention that not only did US government claim  NO SUCH ETHNIC GROUP AS “ETHNIC MACEDONIANS” exists… but even supplied Greeks the weapons to expel Nazi and later communist IMRO irredentists from Greece.

    Why do they pretend as if they don’t notice the former Yugoslavians (mostly descendents of ethnic Bulgarians) as they sudden identity  quick change into “descendents ancient Macedonians”? Racism seems to be alive in well in the 21st century. No mention of Truman’s and Eisenhower’s support of Greece against IMRO? (which current ruling party VMRO in FYROM is named after)

    “Military assistance
    for nations in this area is recommended in the amount of 606 million dollars.
    Most of these funds are for Greece and Turkey, whose military assistance
    programs are carried under the heading of the Near East; defense support funds
    for those countries are included with those for Europe. ”
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=14424&st=greece&st1=

    “When the cold war
    started in Greece and Turkey, and Berlin, and finally in Korea, we had to put
    forth every effort possible to prevent all the free world from coming under
    Communist control. ”

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=14110&st=greece&st1=

    “Furthermore, even
    in the absence of such compacts, we have refused to tolerate assaults on the
    integrity of peace-loving nations whose conduct conforms to the principles of
    the Charter. We have given military as well as diplomatic aid directly to
    nations threatened by aggression. Through our aid to Greece and Turkey, we have
    recognized the fact that, if the principles of international peace are to
    prevail, free nations must have the means as well as the will to resist
    aggression. ”

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=13253&st=greece&st1=

    “That is what we did in Greece, when that nation was threatened by the aggression of international communism. The attack against Greece could have led to general war. But this country came to the aid of Greece. The United Nations supported Greek resistance. With our help, the determination and efforts of the Greek people defeated the attack on the spot. ”www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=14059&st=greece&st1=

    “the Soviet-inspired
    guerrilla war has been decisively defeated in Greece”
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=13793&st=greece&st1=

    “Today the situation in Greece is greatly changed. The guerilla bands which threatened Greece’s internal security have been defeated in the Grammos Mountains, and remnants are being brought under control by the Greek National Army troops, which are supplied by United States aid.”www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=12992&st=greece&st1=

  • Anonymous

    If you believe the carefully selected staff writers on setimes.com
    agenda is “reporting the truth”… I have a fish to bridge to sell you
    in Brooklyn. Setimes likes to lecture Balkan states about “human rights”. It even has articles about torture. However if one Google’s  site:setimes.com  waterboarding…one finds no hits. (much less add the word torture to the query).

    So Is torture…a violation of the geneva convention… war crimes….according to the “human rights” and “truth” tellers on US military payroll at Setimes.com? (and lets not forget who did that torturing  on Mr.Bush’s behalf ok “factchecker”)

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/02/AR2007110201170.html

    Rather odd sort of “reporting” no?

    You dare lecture others about “truth” and nationalist  shilling when US military is funding setime.com? When they give a  platform to FYROM ultra nationalist extremists attempting to interfere not only in my soverign country’s territorial integrity but my family’s very identity? I have to wonder how US government would feel if Europeans gave a platform to nationalist extremists chanting “United Mexico”?

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,346964,00.html

    Oh that’s right… many of US citizens weren’t amused over a single ad made by a vodka company in jest. Unfortunately some of the “reporters” at setimes.com bizarrely seem to think Greeks shouldn’t be angry towards state funded irredentist provocations by the FYROM government  (and media outlets and fake human rights organizations) on a daily basis for years on end,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpFQUH_9VPA

  • Anonymous

     If you believe the carefully selected staff writers on setimes.com
    agenda is “reporting the truth”… I have a bridge to sell you in
    Brooklyn. Setimes likes to lecture Balkan states about “human rights”.
    It even has articles about torture. However if one searches for the word “waterboarding”… on setimes.com website one finds no hits. (much less add the word torture to the query).

    So Is torture…a violation of the geneva convention… war
    crimes….according to the “human rights” and “truth” tellers on US
    military payroll at Setimes.com? (and lets not forget who did that torturing  on Mr.Bush’s behalf ok “factchecker”)

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/02/AR2007110201170.html

    This is a rather odd sort of “reporting” and way to support “human rights”  no?

    You dare give patronizing lectures to others about “truth” and nationalist  shilling when the US military is funding setime.com?
    When they give a  platform to FYROM ultra nationalist extremists
    attempting to interfere not only in my sovereign country’s territorial
    integrity but my family’s very identity? I have to wonder how US
    government would feel if Europeans start gaving a platform to any nationalist
    extremists that supported “United Mexico”?

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,346964,00.html

    Oh that’s right… many of US citizens weren’t amused over a single
    ad made by a vodka company in jest. Unfortunately some of the
    “reporters” at setimes.com
    bizarrely seem to think Greeks shouldn’t be angry towards state funded
    irredentist provocations by the FYROM government  (and media outlets and
    fake human rights organizations) on a daily basis for years on end, Instead they stay silent and play pretend they don’t notice.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpFQUH_9VPA

  • Anonymous

    Not to suggest that GD is right way to go about thing but there are many inaccurate points in this article.

    * “played on the fears of illegal immigrants overrunning the country, who they blame for a surge in crime ”

    Illegal immigrants are to blame for surge in crime. This is not scapegoating or racism like patronizing NGO’s and far leftists trying to narrate to push their agenda  try to claim. It’s true.

    *They promised to rid the country of illegal immigrants”

    This is not “extremist” position. Extremist position is those that argue we shouldn’t deport illegals. (going around lawlessly beating up illegals is another matter)

    “Golden Dawn does not have any legitimate place in the government”

    A slippery slope banning political parties in a democracy. Personally I don’t think communists have a legitimate place in government but I am satisfied if individual far leftists that go around fireboming buildings, throwing rocks or committing treason are prosecuted (rather than ban every communist from participating in government). Similarly I think the same rule of individuals should apply to GD. The one’s that don’t cross the line respect their rights to participate. If some of them want to violate the law put them in jail. If some of them want to help Greece deport illegals they should voluntary offer their services to Greek government not run around lawlessly like a bunch of black shirts terrorizing legal and illegals alike.

  • John

    I meant Golden Dawn. Sorry. 

  • Alex

    Plenty of people complain about GD, but how many are willing to organize neighbourhood groups and fight GD on the streets? Complaining about GD is useless because GD will not care about your complaints because they only care about their own supporters. They are basically a mafia, dressed up as a political party. You do not deal with a mafia by complaining about it.

    We have to do to GD thugs what GD is doing to ethnic minorities, namely make them feel unsafe on our streets, make them know if they try to hurt ordinary people, they themselves are the ones who are more likely to get hurt in retaliation. GD thugs are cocky and think they are invulnerable because they have the corrupt police in their pockets, but they cannot stop principled citizens taking matters into our own hands.

  • Anonymous

    Not that I approve of GD but  how about we instead put our energy into fighting fascism in FYROM instead?

    No foreigner  seems to care about racism in FYROM directed at Greeks so why should we spend any time on GD? If the government catches someone GD breaking law by all means put them in jail right along with any violent far leftist but I really have no energy in fighting other Greeks while meanwhile foreigners stay silent at an entire ation seemingly devoting to ethnically eradicating Greek people

  • Anonymous

     How about NGO’s and foreigners that patronizingly criticized Greeks about FYROM issue finally take moral responsibility for their mistakes and take principled action against FYROM first?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpFQUH_9VPA
     

  • Anonymous

    How many people in FYROM are willing to organize neighbourhood groups and fight VMRO/IMRO in the streets? Complaining about  VMRO is useless because VMRO will not care about your complaints because they
    only care about their own supporters. They are basically a mafia,
    dressed up as a political party. You do not deal with a mafia by
    complaining about it.

    We have to do to VMRO thugs what VMRO is doing to Greeks,
    namely make them feel unsafe on our streets, make them know if they try
    to hurt ordinary people, they themselves are the ones who are more
    likely to get hurt in retaliation. VMRO thugs are cocky and think they are
    invulnerable because they have the corrupt police in their pockets,
    but they cannot stop principled citizens taking matters into our own
    hands.

  • Anonymous

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hoIDjs2ijXQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpFQUH_9VPA