Immigrants Press Children’s Greek Citizenship

Immigrants Press Children’s Greek Citizenship

Immigrant children livingimmigration in Greece made their case for citizenship on Feb. 27 at a news conference held at the offices of the Journalists’ Union of the Athens Daily Newspapers, under the title Citizenship for All Children.

“We claim citizenship for all children. They are our children, children who live at the next door, go to school with ours. We demand a law that would fully cover all children and give them citizenship,” Yiannis Albanis, programmer of the event stated. He also announced a concert organized by the Centre for Civil and Political Rights which will take place on March 21 at Thissio.

Marianthi Hindow, from Nigeria, moved to Greece at two years old, studied at the Infant Care School and referred to the problem of being appointed to the municipality, due to lack of the Greek nationality. She also described the difficulties in getting citizenship she instead has to renew her residency permit.

The Centre for Civil and Political Rights,  initiative along with other anti-racist organizations as well as immigrations’ communities, have started a campaign targeting the concession of the Greek citizenship to immigrants’ children in Greece, but are being opposed by the coalition government of Prime Minister Antonis Samaras and the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party which wants them out of the country.

At the same event, 19 migrant rights groups gathered to protest a recent ruling by the country’s highest administrative court over a law granting second-generation migrants the right to apply for Greek citizenship. The Council of State on February 5 deemed unconstitutional the law, which was passed almost three years ago and which is known as the Ragousis law after former Interior Minister Yiannis Ragousis.

In a joint statement, the migrant groups accused the government of “adopting a right-wing agenda” with its decision to challenge the law. “For the first time, that law addressed issues concerning the children of migrants, taking a few timid steps toward granting citizenship… steps that other countries in the European Union took a lot earlier and to a much more advanced degree,” the statement said.

The citizenship law was ratified by Parliament in early 2010, allowing those who had been born to immigrant parents legally living in Greece for at least five years to be granted Greek citizenship provided they had studied at a Greek school for a minimum of six years.

Greece stopped granting citizenship under Ragousis criteria in December, in anticipation of the Council of State’s ruling being made public. The decision irked coalition partners PASOK and Democratic Left but they went along with it as they have all other policies being set by Samaras, the New Democracy Conservative leader.

“Two hundred thousand children are left in limbo, without papers, without rights, without hope,” the migrant groups said. “These are the children of migrants born in Greece or who came to the country at a young age. These are children we often call second-generation migrants, when the fact is that Greece is the only homeland they have ever known,” the statement added, according to the newspaper Kathimerini.

Meanwhile, the Council of State’s decision could mean that some of those who were granted Greek citizenship in the last three years will lose their rights. The statement added that of the some 200,000 people who are eligible for citizenship under the Ragousis law, 6,072 have succeeded so far, or just 3 percent.

“Now the government wants to reduce or even abolish this ridiculous percentage, which places Greece way at the bottom of the EU scale on the issue,” the statement said. Last month, Deputy Interior Minister Haralambos Athanassiou said that the Ragousis law would be replaced with legislation that would require migrants to show a “genuine bond” with Greece and prove they had assimilated into Greek culture. As it stands now, even if they were born in Greece, went to Greek schools, speak Greek, and know Greek history better than citizens, they are not eligible to become one.

“Being granted citizenship via a confusion of prerequisites and bureaucratic procedures will be an untenable dream for those who wish to apply,” the migrant groups said, adding that the only group applauding the Council of State’s decision wass the “neo-Nazis of Golden Dawn,” in reference to the extremist party that was elected into Parliament in June on an anti-migrant platform.

“The basic reasoning of the government and the judges is to render Greece unattractive to migrants. The fact is that it has already stopped being attractive because of the deep economic crisis. Another fact is that an increasing percentage of Greeks – especially young Greeks – are preparing to or have already emigrated to other countries looking for that which their country has for two decades withheld from others: the hope of a better life,” the statement said.

The migrant groups called for a new law that would improve citizenship rights. “People who have lived for years in our country, who have families, who work and pay social security contributions and taxes, who are our friends and neighbors, have every right to become visible,” the statement said.

  • Salconstandinidis

    He can a Greek be racist against Greek you are stupid I hate nationalist like you

  • Salconstandinidis

    Alex thinks he is the only one Greek here

  • Salconstandinidis

    Just like I have no love for Greek nationlist I also hate Albanian Skopian any kind of nationalism

  • Alex

    Bet you like Skopians too.

  • Alex

    Virtually all the Muslims in athens are in the country illegally. In Qatar and Saudi Arabia they deport illegals.

  • Alex

    Greek haters like you that make constant racist comments against Greeks are hardly Greek. You are an Arab or Skopian.

    If Greek hating Nazis like you actually hated nationalists, you would condemn the fascists in Skopians threatening Greece.

  • Alex

    Given you endless make racist comments against Greeks you are an an Arab or a Skopian.

  • Alex

    Sure you do. This is why you say nothign against Skopians and troll Greek all day long.

    You are a Greek-hating racists *sshsole.

  • Tzak12345678

    Hope you are right Alex.. so far the leftists are winning. Not sure where the leftists are getting all their funding from. Wherever it is from it is alot.

  • Tzak12345678

    This blogger is trying to find out if you are from Australia. The blogger has no factual information to back up their opinion and want to gauge how intametly you know Australia to determine if that is where you reside.

  • Alex

    Its funny watching you two argue when neither of you are Greek.

  • Alex

    You agree with the skopian “mental retard Kosta:” too.

  • Alex

    Wrong. Illegals are 99 percent of that.

  • Alex

    You are one to lecutre aboiut “facism”… when you are a Greek hating Nazi,

  • Alex

    Illegals that sneak across borders are not “immigrants’. They are INVADERS.

  • Salconstandinidis

    Skopians sure I like them they are people but I don’t like the nationalist idiot skopians

  • Salconstandinidis

    I think you are funny you are to serious

  • Salconstandinidis

    fu-k them to

  • Salconstandinidis

    Well believe it or not Iam Greek

  • Salconstandinidis

    Fu-k them to

  • Savas

    Fantastic story for the fascists to have a field day!

    Human Rights do exist, for some!

  • Alex

    Which make up 90 percent of their popualtion.

  • Alex

    In the end all you do is rant hours and hours against Greeks rather than argue against those trying to exterminate Greeks.

    Alas that is not very funny.

  • Alex

    You spent all of 10 seconds on that.

  • Alex

    I don’t. At best you are using Greek in a gegraphic sense not ethnic. You see yourself more as Arab or Skopian.

  • Alex

    Unfortunately the problem is not just leftists. Although I go on about left and right as you know doubt know there are many more factors involved. (including other nationalist groups trying to erase us under the guise of “human rights’)

  • Murat Ozturk

    The Macedonian scientists received samples and data from most of the Balkan countries, except from Greece, who refused to take part in the project. All the other countries sent DNA analyses in.

    Looool. Now, why would Greece REFUSE to participate in the DNA analysis if they have nothing to hide?

    It’s ok, those J2 haplotype genes can’t hide your faces Turkoglou’s!

    I have been to Greece on business & while strolling the Agora, I had Greeks speak to me in Greece thinking I was Greek. When I told them that I was Turkish, you should see their faces!

  • Alex

    Do you sh*t on your master Gruevski too? Still waiting….

  • Alex

    You left out the part that the “Macedonians”… are actuall mostly BULGARIANS. This was confirmed even with DNA testing by your own scientists.

    J2 Haplogroup are well known to also belong to ancient Greeks you illiterate. Better luck next time Skopian.

  • Alex

    The Uk kicks out illegals. Ditto for German. Ditto for france.Ditto for Spain. Ditto for… well… every country in the world.

    Now when Greeks want to kick out illegals, while our country is being flooded with far more illegals per capita than all the other country’s doing the deports,  its called “racism” and “Fascism”?

    F*CK YOU BIGOT.

  • Alex

    Who is “we”? You aren’t Greek SKopian.

  • Alex Prime Minister of Greece

    You are right….the US has been taken over by foreign powers

  • Alex Prime Minister of Greece

    I have said that to a muslim Sal…and?

  • Alex Prime Minister of Greece

    Was your family beaten by Papadopoulos back in the days?  They probably deserved it

  • Adde

    The problem with what you say is that In France, muslims build mosques with Crecent moon and star on top of it. Also symbol to represent something and especially somebody ARE FORBIDDEN in Islam. Know you religion, Salim.
    Jeez, why it is me a Greek-Orthodox Christian who have to explain you your own religion ?
    I remember you that the Crescent Moon+the Star symbol represent Goddess Artemis/Diana (The Crescent) and the Star is the Morning star wich represents Maria the mother of Jesus. As for Jesus since you said he was Jew in another topic (he could also be a Palestinian), just remember that many muslim prophets are Jewish too and you muslims love them. Even one of the wives of Muhammad was Jewish.

  • Adde

    Please don’t be rude and stop calling this desert bandit (and convicted ped*phile) a Prophet. Thank you for your understanding.

  • Adde

    You didn’t say you were muslim because you are too afraid to recognize it but it’s obvious you are one Salim.
    You support muslim invaders constantly and you said that when Greece would become arab and islamic controlled we Greeks would live Hell.
    You muslims are making the same mistakes the jews did 50 years ago and I’m affraid you’ll end exactly like your cousins the Jews.
    God may have pity of you.
    You know Sal, we Europeans are the most barbaric peoples on this Earth but not because we are Evil (we aren’t) but because we are too kind.

  • Adde

    It’s false, Sal. It’s muslim illegals who have attacked Greeks first by sneaking into Greece like thieves and by attacking and killing ederly peoples for 10 €, rap*ng women, … and our families fought back to protect our beloved ones. And now, many muslims are afraid in front of the reaction and hostility of the local peoples towards them that they themselves created with their evil actions.
    Also many pissed off peoples want the illegal muslims to fight back so a large-scale Hellenic reaction against them can take place.
    What I try to tell you it that more and more local peoples want war with illegal criminal muslims ottoman invaders, Salim.

  • Alex

    You are clueless moron that thinks “human rights” is a synomy for your political ideology.

  • Alex

    hours ranting against Greeks 5 seconds complaing abut Skopians threaening our country

  • Salconstandinidis

    Then I fu-k the 90 percent

  • Salconstandinidis

    Be carefull what you say they will cut your head of

  • Salconstandinidis

    When they start blowing them self up what are you going to do

  • Salconstandinidis

    Oh papadopoulos yes the ugly monkey with no hair

  • Adde

    I’m not affraid of muslims, Salim. I want them to pay for what they did to my Ancestors and for their zionist occupation of Constantinoupolis, Kypros and Kosovo as well as the current invasion of the country of my father.
    I hate muslims :) It’s them who would be wise to be afraid of peoples like me.
    It’s really sad, Salim. If you would be a legal arab Christian (praciticing or not) immigrant I wouldn’t have any hate or prejudice against you but sadly for you, you are a Muslim (even if you seems to not know your religion very well). The day you will become Orthodox, I won’t have problem with you. Until then, you are just an Ottoman invader and you should have understood now the hate many of us Greeks have for Ottomans.
    Islam is the religions of the Turks.

  • Adde

    Ask the muslims from Bosnia and Kosovo what we Greeks (majoritary members of Golden Dawn and others nationalists and Religious fighers), Orthodox Russians and the Serbians did to them in the 2 wars. Then you’ll know what will happen to your fellow muslims invaders if you make this mistake.
    Greece isn’t a regular European country : It’s the Balkans here and by Balkans I mean one of the most dangerous regions in the world (and I’m not joking).

  • Adde

    Keywords for you, Salim : Srebrenica genocide and that was in the 1990s. On the main fighting scene in Srebrenica, the Greek National flag was flying. As for the Kosovo conflict, it happened in 1999. We Orthodox, Muslims and Catholics (Croats) are very often killing each others in the Balkans. It’s a “normal” or should I say a usual situation.
    Also with the Turks, often there are dogfights between their pilots and ours in top of the Aegean Sea. Welcome to the Balkans, man.

  • Alex Prime Minister of Greece

     That made sense…the US has brainwashed you and your family.

  • Elvalentino

    omg, there is sooo many immigrants in greece..when i went to athens last year i went to a club and only saw Africans and maybe around 10-20 greeks..that was weird …greece is becoming like canada