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Greece Plans To Stifle Golden Dawn

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Giving up the idea of banning the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party, which is not allowed under the Constitution, the Greek government instead is said to planning to try to designate it as a criminal gang so that more than 30 cases involving its members could have them facing felonies instead of misdemeanors as part of a scheme to put a stranglehold on the extremists.

That comes in the wake of the murder of an anti-fascist, Pavlos Fyssas, a 34-year-0ld hip hop artist witnesses said was stabbed to death outside a cafe in a southern Athens neighborhood by a man identified as Giorgos Roupakias, who said he belonged to Golden Dawn.

Public Order Minister Nikos Dendias and Justice Minister Haralambos Athanasiou met to discuss how the government can best corral the out-of-control Golden Dawn, whose members – emboldened by largely avoiding arrests and prosecution – have been running amok for more than a year since the party won 18 seats in Parliament, accused of attacking immigrants, leftists, Communists, gays and others on their long list of perceived enemies of Greece.

Speaking out for the first time since police said an anti-fascist hip-hot artist was stabbed to death by a suspect linked to the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party, Prime Minister Antonis Samaras said in a televised address on Sept. 19 that his government will no longer tolerate violence by the extremists as it has done for more than a year and urged there be no bitter reactions.

He condemned the killing of Fyssas and said that, “The government is determined not to allow the Nazi descendants to poison our social life, commit murders, terrorize and undermine the foundations of the country that gave birth to democracy.”

With street protests breaking out all over the place the night of Sept. 18 and political parties issuing harsh statements against Golden Dawn, which has 18 seats in the Parliament, he appealed for tension to be avoided and an end to fiery language so there wouldn’t be any further provocations that could lead to violence.

He said it was no time for domestic or political conflicts although critics said he has turned a blind eye to Golden Dawn’s antics so as not to offend their right-wing constituency that he also seeks.

“We all know that our country is at an exceptionally crucial moment and that our people are suffering the biggest sacrifices to conquer the crisis and succeed in its financial rebirth. Any political disagreements should be solved with a democratic dialogue, not with incendiary arguments nor with violence anywhere it may come from and, what is more, not with blood which divides us and exposes us abroad,” he said.

Samaras, who set aside a bill earlier this year that would have increased the penalties for hate crimes in an attempt to corral the neo-Nazis, said the shocking murder had forced him to finally act against them and that he would not allow the “successors of the Nazis” to destabilize Greece.

Since entering the Parliament in June of 2012, Golden Dawn has denounced the body and been on a rampage of anti-immigrant assaults and beatings of leftists and Communists and clashed with anarchists while the police – said to be sympathizers of theirs – have done little to stop them unless there were more serious and public incidents that forced them to act.

In this case, they quickly arrested Roupakias, 45,  and the raided the party’s headquarters before protests raged into the night.

While other political parties quickly criticized Golden Dawn, Samaras, the New Democracy Conservative party leader, waited but now said that, “Democracy is much stronger than its enemies realize.” He said there should be calm as an antidote to the troubles.

“Violence is a downhill slide that destroys any chance of Greece achieving what it deserves, in other words growth, prospects and prosperity,” he said. “This is not the time for internal disputes or tension,” added Samaras with a reference to the damage being inflicted on Greece’s image abroad.

While he said there should be no political rivalries emerging, his own advisor Chrysanthos Lazaridis, lashed out at the major opposition party the Coalition of the Radical Left (SYRIZA) and also blamed Golden Dawn, for political violence and suggested that the leftist party was not part of the “constitutional axis.” SYRIZA was among the first, however, to denounce the killing and the political atmosphere it said had allowed it.

Meanwhile, Council of Europe Secretary General Thorbjorn Jagland he was worried the murder could be the trigger for more violence. “This murder stems from an extremely dangerous development we are seeing in Greece and also other parts of Europe,” he said. “Sections of society are becoming more radicalized and there is a real risk that hate speech turns into violence and cold-blooded murder.

“I support the Greek government’s efforts to conduct a rapid investigation of Golden Dawn’s involvement and to uphold the rule of law in the face of current protests. We cannot tolerate racist radical groups disrupting democratic society.”

Although the Constitution doesn’t allow it, Public Order Minister Nikos Dendias, who cancelled a trip to Rome, said  the government would table emergency legislation that would seek to outlaw the group and re-evaluate what constitutes a criminal gang that can be controlled, and has the support of the other parties in the Parliament apart from the extremists.

“Neither the state will tolerate, nor society accept, acts and practices that undermine the legal system,” the minister told reporters, adding that the attack showed “in the clearest way the (party’s) intentions”.

With the killing getting worldwide play – negatively for Greece – the British newspaper The Guardian wrote about the ramifications and possible aftermath and speculation that the party, which blames the government for imposing austerity measures, is running amok.

“It is up to the government now to deal with Golden Dawn once and for all,” said Giorgos Kyrtsos, a prominent political commentator. “We know very little about the inner workings of Golden Dawn, and whether its leadership has lost control (over its members.) But what we do know is that, for the first time, the government has them in a corner.”

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  • twopenceworth

    i wonder where all these “upvotes” are coming from? Far right extremists who cannot string a sentence together and can only use violence and insults because the facts are not on their side. Oh, and they have been TOLD to come over here and flood these forum with their “upvotes” and they aren’t smart to enough to question why.

  • pyrophilia
  • pyrophilia

    sked if they believed Golden Dawn was involved in the killing, 77.8 percent of Greeks surveyed said yes and 13.5 percent said no. Most – 57.6 percent – said they believed the presence of Golden Dawn in political life threatened democracy.

    Asked to describe the party, 47.5 of respondents called it a “fascist organisation”, 30.7 percent called it a “criminal organisation under the guise of a political party”, and 16.9 percent described it as a “populist nationalist movement”.

  • pyrophilia

    They love to murk up the waters with biased polls with weighting in their favor etc to comitt the appeal to popularity fallacy. but they’re unpopular.

  • pyrophilia

    they’re not anti-greece you fucking idiot. The radical left is anti-nationalism in GENERAL. ThE WHOLE IDEA OF countries. you’re not being singled out. Get over your persecution complex. Nationalism is responsible for more deaths and wars world wide then any other thing that comes to mind. it’s a disease that should be wiped from the earth.

  • pyrophilia
  • pyrophilia

    your chart is out of date based on biased polling and misinfomred

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/23/us-greece-goldendawn-poll-idUSBRE98M07S20130923

    The poll by Rass for the Eleftheros Typos newspaper, conducted on September 19-21, put support for Golden Dawn at 5.8 percent, down from 8.3 percent on September 15

  • pyrophilia

    this pollster is not reputable

  • pyrophilia

    hate to break iit to you but no you’re NOT. The poll by Rass for the Eleftheros Typos newspaper, conducted on Sept. 19-21, put support for Golden Dawn at 5.8 percent, down from 8.3 percent on Sept. 15.

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.548419

    you’re probably an anti jewish bigot who hates haaretz though so would you like it from reuters?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/23/us-greece-goldendawn-poll-idUSBRE98M07S20130923

    Yeah. That’s Right.; you were never at 15 percent and you aren’t at 20 now.

  • pyrophilia

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/23/us-greece-goldendawn-poll-idUSBRE98M07S20130923

    his numbers aren’t made up. Get a life. Loser.

    Absolute truth =)

    go cry your crocidile tears now.

    they didn’t even get THaT MUCH

    The poll by Rass for the Eleftheros Typos newspaper, conducted on September 19-21, put support for Golden Dawn at 5.8 percent, down from 8.3 percent on September 15

  • pyrophilia

    the problem with “the new world order” isn’t the “Socialism” parto r the “jewish” part dipshit. it’s the oligarchy part. Which the RIGHT WING represents.

  • pare1balakimalakaLagoudaki

    The no good for nothing Nazi have been stooped before and they will again and again and again as long as it takes.
    Our best satisfaction comes when they are jailed, key thrown away, until they see the ραδίκια ανάποδα like Αντιβασιλεύς Παπαδόπουλος ο Αρχή-Μαλάκας.

  • ShekelGoldbergstein

    Again, I’d like to see you try and stop them.