Greece Wants To Boost Greek In Schools

arbanitopoulosThe Greek government in May will put before the Parliament in May a draft law on the overall reform of Greek language education, Education Minister Constantine Arvanitopoulos told the German media operation Deutsche Welle.

He said that the government’s goal is to support the Greeks abroad, in their effort for integration but also help them keep their Greek identity and culture. He said that he wants to help boost Modern Greek language departments at foreign universities that are seeing falling enrollment and little support from the Diaspora or the Greek government..

“We intent to maintain the quality of education while reducing the corresponding expense,” Arvanitopoulos underlined, without explaining how that would happen during the country’s crushing economic crisis. He assured that children who this year in the first grade of a Greek-language secondary school will graduate from an totally Greek-speaking high school.

He also stressed that 3 percent of Greek immigrants’ children will continue to be admitted at the universities in Greece. He said the opening of a Greek school on the Turkish island of Imvros in the Aegean Sea was an historic moment.  “With coordinated actions in cooperation with the Greek Ministry of Foreign Affairs,  the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, the associations of the people in Imvros we managed to remove all obstacles and make this dream come true and to support as much as possible this school,” he said.


  1. There is no such language as “modern” Greek. The most common form we speak is properly called “demotic” Greek. While it has been known as Romaic during middle ages it practice it was still descended in linear unbroken chain from earlier form of
    Greek. Using the qualifier “modern” in reference to Greeks is a method some foreigners manipulatively use to try and delete our identity (trying to separate it out from earlier forms of Greek). Those that have any doubts, compare the frequency of usage “modern” when it comes to the “modern” Brtitish.

    Modern Brits… who today offensively reference the former Yugoslavians as “Macedonians” and casually attempt to delete our identity as “real” Greeks…do not typically use the term “modern” to describe their own language or heritage… despite they have far far less in common with their claimed roots than Greeks do.

    The etymology of the term British was actually first reported by a Greek…Pytheas of Massalia.. who references the region as “Pritannia”. England first written reference dates back to a 4th century BC Aristotelian Corpus which calls it “Albion”. Romans who conquered the region, occupied by many distinct peoples, officially named it Britannia. Romans mixed with the local tribes (which was common practice across the Roman empire).

    After Romans withdrew their forces centuries later (under Constantine the III), Britannia fell into political chaos. During the early middle ages wave after wave of non-indigenous migrations permanently entered the territory (most famously Germanic peoples like Angles, Saxons, Frisii, and Jutes but also lessor known Basques, Vikings, and many others).

    The modern english language, which t has far far less to do with what
    is framed as old “English” than Demotic Greek has to do Attic Greek, was largely the creation of non-British source. What is framed as old “english” by modern brits is not only completely incomprehensible to a modern Brit but actually uses a different alphabet. Prior to the Norman conquests of the what is known as “Great Britain” today, Runic rather than Latin script was the norm (up to around the 11 century when Norman invasion
    introduced Latin and French inputs which was the base on the English language as we know it today).

    Even the official usage of the name “Britain” to describe the island chain in a political sense was abandoned millennium ago. The modern inhabitants of Britain, under King James I decided to recycle this name 1603 by referencing the union of crowns between Scotland and England as “Great Britain” (using the ancient Roman name to imply they were the original Brits.. which they clearly are not). The British used this ancient name, for the first time in history in an official sovereign sense, when Queen Anne announced it in 1707.

    Although the modern Britsih like to claim distinctions of “Scottish”, “English”, and “Welsh” these distinctions are political and ideological not biological (and that would include British royality that makes sure only to mention the lines of their decedent that suit them ignoring non-British inputs). This mixing was further accelerated with British mixing with people’s from around the globe during the heights of the British empire and today when a significant portion of “British” aren’t even of modern era British ancestry.

    The bottom line… modern Brits have unquestionably heavily mixed both between themselves and many many others.

    So if anyone in Britain criticizes Greeks for being offended with them calling FYROM “ethnic Macedonians”… seeing as modern Brits are far less “British” than we are Greek…..ask them if they would be offended if Greeks started to reference western French or Swedes as “ethnic English”, “ethnic Welsh” or “ethnic Scots”… while their neighbouring state is trying to usurp their identity and teaching their children their country is occupied.

  2. (“Using the qualifier “modern” in reference to Greeks is a method some
    foreigners manipulatively use to try and delete our identity”). Dude, seriously, WTF. What world are u living in? No body wants to “delete” your identity, ur nuts! u live in this paranoid world where everyone is coming after Greece.

    (“Modern Brits… who today offensively reference the former Yugoslavians
    as “Macedonians”) No, “modern Brits” only call Macedonians Macedonians, they call them Croats if they are from Croatia and Bosnian if they are from Bosnia and Serbs if they are from Serbia.

    I read greekreporter often and like everyone else, I stumble across ur opinionated remarks, trying to teach people the “truth”.
    U act like ur so smart and u know whats going on behind deep states with ur conspiracy theories but u make no sense, ur patriot, ur racist, ur fanatic, ur homophobic. U r a serious head case!

    u keep getting all heated up about “real identity” but we are all human, get the over it! Different race or religion does not matter, a nation not being “pure” is not a nation that is backward. You have a lot to learn Alex, ur a sad little man..

  3. Seems like the “truth” is what you are trying to claim… without actually dealing with the substance of my criticism. Instead you go into a diatribe against me.

    I am not homophobic nor a fanatic nor all the other slanderous accusations you make. Listening to your negative stereotyping rant against me suggest you are BIGOT.

    Of course we are all human you pretentious troll. This does not however give you the right to ethnically exterminate Greeks you Greek-hating prick. How do you think David Cameron in the UK would react if Greeks start referencing western france as “Ethnic English” while they were usurping English historical figures and teaching their citizens that England was “British occupied England” You think the English people might object you patronizing Greek hating cockroach?

  4. Those who live in Skopje and say that that is Macedon and Alexander’s homeland are as ignorant and outrageous as if someone was to say that Oxford University was really in Belarus and Oxford was Minsk” – Professor Robin Lane Fox Oxford University

    “We are Slavs. There’s no connection between us an alexander the Great. ” = Kiro Gligorov first elected President of FYROM

    “It is no wonder that, in matters of politics in the Balkans, Greece feels misunderstood. It cannot understand why, after it stood alone with the United Kingdom against the forces of fascism between 28 October 1940–Ohi day, as it is still called–and 27 April 1941, when Athens finally fell, its former allies now appear to be taking the part of forces against which it stood, especially when, after the second world war, it endured those further four years of civil war to hold the line against the communist advance to the Aegean. That was done for the United States and for the United Kingdom especially–the world powers of the time–and those Governments objected, in 1944, to Tito’s change of the name of Vardar Banovina.” – House of Commons Hansard Debates, 9 May 1995

    “This (US) government considers talk of Macedonian “nation”, Macedonian
    “Fatherland”, or Macedonia “national consciousness” to be
    unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees
    in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against
    Greece” – US State Department Dec, 1944 (Foreign Relations Vol. VIII
    Washington D.C. Circular Airgram – 868.014/26)

  5. Don’t make me laugh you manipulative liar. “Wft” is not your regular handle.
    Where are the rest of your posts on Greek Reporter? You are obviously a
    handle swapping troll with serious prejudices against Greeks.

  6. lol Alex, the only reason I changed my name to WTF is because the title seemed to be more relevant to the topic, I have nothing to hide.

    You keep ranting on about Skopje and Slavs and little do you know that you missed my point.

    I’m far from manipulative, I’m just upfront and clear to the point. I hate ultra-nationalists and I find ppl who keep fighting over the history are bloody sad. I think u shud move on and start living in the future.

    Also I really don’t think if you said that to Cameron his going to have a heart attack, I’m not British but living in Australia (British occupied and recognized territory) and previously having visited England, I have to say, the Brits are not ultra-nationalists, I think they would just ignore your speech. You are the one who is bashing his head against the wall every time a Turk or a Slav disagree with you.

    You called me a bigot, now I am not going to bother arguing with you, all I have to say is read my comments above again, then go to google and type “bigot meaning” and once you learn the meaning and ur embarrassed, don’t bother replying and apologizing because I forgive ur stupidity.

    Moral of the story is no one cares who lives in Skopje and call themselves Macedonian who are originally Greek. Cry me a river! People in Turkey are ethnically Anatolian’s, who converted to Hittites then became Greeks who are now Turks. It’s just a name, they still bleed red.

  7. LoL a “troll with serious prejudices against Greeks”. Once again paranoia comes out. First of all, I see the world a whole lot different than u Alex. In order for me to have prejudice against Greeks, I have to see them as one entity. Since Greeks are all human beings like every other race, and since Greeks have good and bad, stupid and smart like everyone else, then I cannot have that feeling towards the Greeks. Unfortunately I am not as simple as yourself.

    I am aware that Alex’s are common all over the world, years of only using one part of their brain has resulted in a crisis that permanently blocked the receptors and access to other parts of the brain, causing an effect otherwise known as “Alex syndrome”. It is a common disease, and not limited to people of different ethnicity or religious backgrounds just like cancer.

    Unlike u, I don’t live in a paranoid world, I make sense of my surroundings and I don’t look up ultra-nationalist youtube videos of made up conspiracy theories that alter my perception. You must be asking yourself “f**k how does he know?!?!”. I already told you, I’ve met many Alex’s around the world before 😉

  8. Hey look… another handle that’;s never posted to Greek Reporter shows up to rant against me. Surely a “coincidence:”.

    Well “observer”, absolute nothing… .nothing… in your rant against me had anything to do with addressing even one my points.

    I know you are a regular based on your rant. At least next time when you show up to rant at me have the courage to use your regular handle you handle swapping coward.

  9. Are you sure you want to compare morality notes?

    The modern Brits, who have essentially nothing to do with the original Brits, have WMDS themselves…. yet invaded Iraq for non-existent WMDs. This lead to the the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. They also likely knowingly handed over POWs to the Americans to be tortured (i.e. war crimes)

    And yes you are a bigot.

    How generous of you throwing around MY family’s identity to the former Yugoslavians. I especially love how you and the modern Brits, and all the other “modern” bigots that mocked us when we begged you all not to call the former Yugoslavians… “Macedonians:”…. ALL now dishonestly pretend you don’t notice their sudden change of identity into “ancient Macedonians:” (i.e. self-identifying greeks) and attempts to frame MY country as “Greek occupied Macedonia”.

    Apparently silently colluding with people clearly trying to ethnically delete Greeks, is “human rights” to Greek hating patronizing scumbags like you.

  10. Here is an example of the modern British trying to hide their shame i referencing the former Yugoslavians as “ethnic” Macedonian. The note their sudden identity change from Slavs into descendents but don’t denounce it to protect the rights of THE Macedonians (i.e. the Greeks that live in THE Macedonia)

    I have to wonder if Sweden had decided to reference themselves as “ethnic Scottish’ and claimed 1/3 of the UK “British occupied Scotland” if the modern Scots would be quick to “recognize” them? I mean whats the big deal. Modern British people are all the same and its just a name right? Our blood is all red after all.

  11. hahaha ur upset that Brits invaded Iraq and needlessly killed thousands of Iraqis? I thought they were Satan Muslims who deserved to die anyways. Those illegal immigrants who keeps asking for a mosque in Greece and don’t respect Christianity in their country and should be exterminated? Stop pretending to care to validate ur argument. Ur a careless, racist, nationalist idiot and in reality, u couldn’t care less unless it happens to ur people. You clearly think Greece is the center of the world if u think Turks, Macedonians, Brits n all the rest are trying to erase “Greek identity”. I’m pretty sure we all have better things to

    People know u on this website, u been in countless arguments and apart form fanatic ultra-nationalist Greeks, no one else can stand u and ur sh*t opinions.

    Greece is a culturally rich, beautiful place with amazing people who contributed greatly to the world of politics. You are the skid mark of Greece and your points are invalid.

    Regards 🙂

  12. Seems like you’ve already conveniently forgotten the reason the Americans and modern Brits claimed for their invasion was having Iraq have WMDs. Did you find them yet? Hows the search coming along?

    Also of interesting “coincidence”, the modern Americans and Brits “recognzied” the former Yugoslavians a little after their invasion. You see the evil Greeks advised against the evasion whereas the former Yugoslavians were perfectly willing to murder Iraqs for non-existent WMDs in the hopes of getting recognized. Worked like a charm.

    As for Macedonians… you have to visit THE Macedonia if you want to meet them… that would be found in Greece not in the ancient Kingdom of paeonia where FYROM is situated. Good luck trying to bury your hate and mistake calling them “macedonains” by pretending not to notice the former Yugoslavians attempts to usurp the identity of actual Macedonians.

    “It should be noted that there is NO CONNECTION between the
    Macedonians of the time of Alexander the Great who were a GREEK tribe and today’s so-called ‘macedonians’ of the ‘Former Yugoslav Republic of macedonia’ or FYROM, who are of SLAVIC origin and related to BULGARIANS.” – David H Levinson, ‘The Encyclopaedia of Ancient Cultures’

  13. You are the racist. As are many of the modern Brits, as are many of the other modern foreigners that mocked us when we begged you all not to call the former Yugolsaivans “Macedonians”.

    ‘We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.’ – FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper,
    February 24 1999

    ‘We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great.’ – FYROM’S Ambassador Ljubica Acevshka, speech to US representatives in Washington on January 22 1999

    You are ALL now trying to hide your mistake with disingenuous attempts to pretend you care about human rights… but then in practice go on to actively collude with extremists from the former Yugoslavia trying to ethnically delete Greeks by trying to usurp our very identity. (while they are encouraging their citizens to see my homeland as “occupied” on state sponsored level.

    You are ALL more concerned with hiding your shame and prejudices towards Greeks rather than atoning for your mistake calling the former Yugoslavians “Macedonians”. It’s exactly mountains of patronizing Greek hating bigots like you…. that now pretend not to notice their behavior or downplay it…. that has lead to the rise of distrust of foreigners in Greece.

    You would have made a fine gestapo jail guard. Just look the other way and pretend you don’t notice. Not your problem bigot.

    “On November 4, 2004, two days after the re-election of President George W. Bush, his administration unilaterally recognized the “Republic of Macedonia.” This action not only abrogated geographic and historic fact, but it also has unleashed a dangerous epidemic of historical revisionism, of which the most obvious symptom is the misappropriation by the government in Skopje of the most famous of Macedonians, Alexander the Great.”

  14. Well regarded educators such as Vlassis Mavraganis should be asked to advise the Hellenic Government accordingly. At the same time those of us with degrees and experience in education including higher ed could help with Hellas’ educational reforms.