Turkish Jets Invade Greek Airspace Again

f16During a three-month moratorium in the Aegean Sea, the Turkish Air Force avoided sending fighter jets into Greek air space as it does at will, but they returned on July 31 when enemy aircraft flew over Greek islands at the height of tourist season.

Six Turkish fighter jets, four F-4’s and two F-16’s remained in the Athens FIR for 21 minutes, violated the Greek airspace and operated a low level flight over the islets Makronisi and Anthropophagi near Fourni of the Greek island Ikaria.

According to an announcement made by the Hellenic National Defense General Staff, the Turkish aircraft entered at 11:02 the Athens FIR between Samos and Chios, conducted at 11:19 a flight above Makronisi and Anthropophagi of Fourni group of islands, at an altitude of 3.000 and 5.000 respectively.”

The Hellenic National Defense General Staff says that “the total of the Turkish jets were intercepted and identified with the international rules and by standard practice,” which means that the Turkish jets were tracked by Greek pilots but there was no attempt at intercepting them. It’s common for Turkish jets to fly into Greek airspace.


  1. No problem sue. Each post has a “reply” under it. You probably just accidentally clicked on my post.

  2. Israel is supplying Turkey with weapons AND there both in cahoots in the Syrian Civil war.

  3. So you’ll let Turkey VIOLATE greek airspace?

    Turkey is a Glass cannon, can pack a punch but it’ll shatter doing so, the Kurds will rise and a host of trouble will cause them to surrender.

  4. Only a temporary alliance. Turkey is on Palestinian side. Israel is out to wipe out any trace of a Palestinian people or state. Its inevitable they will collide over this issue again because Erdrogen has confused himself for an Ottoman sultan and a superpower.

    He’s bit off more than he could chew with Israel. Its only a matter of time before another incident and they set their sights on dismantling Turkey. (vis-a-vis their US influence).

  5. Alex,

    I’ve read your posts. With all due respect, you seem to be angry with the world, with a little paranoia thrown in.

    You appear to assume a lot ,without factual justification for your assumption, other than your own personal feelings because something, doesn’t appear to be going your way.

    There are forums, upon forums, in the U.S. that think the world is one big conspiracy and when an incident happens they accuse some entity of conspiring against humanity.

    I could give you all types of factual arguments to dispute your claims. However, I’m a very educated man, and learned a long time ago that attempting to convince someone with a position such as yours that they may be incorrect regarding their assumptions……… would be pointless.

  6. I am angry but it it isn’t “paranoia” as you quite patronizingly and offensive assert. I provide facts while you are providing evasion and empty assertions I am incorrect.

    a. the US not only used to claim there is no such thing as an “ethnic Macedonian” but used to even give us weapons to fight these clowns. It rationally follows either the US was involved in an attempted Genocide in 1944… or this ethnic group is invented post 1944. Today the US dishonerable pretends those events didn’t happen while framing the former Yugoslavians (who are mostly actually ethnic Bulgarians incidentally) as “ethnic Macedonians”.

    b. the former Yugoslavians have changed their ethnic narrative to claim they are related to ancient macedoinans right before the eyes of their apologists to insinuate Macedonia Greece is occupied (see giant Alexander statue in FYROM). few minutes of google search of “United Macedonia” would find could countless references of the former Yugoslavians asseting Macedonia Greece is “occupied” and that they are related to ancient Macedonians.

  7. Greece needs a change, $%^& the IMF and the euro. A Turkish submarine entered the Bay of Kastelorio last week. Turkish fighter jets flying over Athens. Just go back to the Drachma and deal with it. Short-term losses for long term gains.

  8. You use a reference from 1944 ? You forgot to mention in your tirade about a man by the name of Papandreou who was educated in the U.S. but hated America and basically cut ties to the U.S. Remember that guy ?

    Yes, I would say paranoia does enter the picture in reading some of your rants

  9. You have not once addressed my points. All you do, much like all of FYROM apologists, is evade

    Either you are accusing the US of attempted genocide in 1944 or the “ethnic Macedonian” identity was created post 1944. Take your pick.

  10. What in hades does Papandreou have to do with the name dispute? You think I voted for him champ?

    As I said, many Americans are today anti-Greek- You are proving it at this very moment by instead of defending Greeks you attack my country yet again… while apologizing for former Yugoslavian extremists trying to exterminate the greek people.

    Americans deny their own senses to hide their bigotry towards Greeks. If they had shred of honour rather than purely self-interest they would apologize to the Greek people and remove recognition of the former Yugoslavians.

    “We are Slavs. There’s no connection between us an alexander the Great. ” – Kiro Gligorov first elected President of FYROM

  11. “When I begun in the 1990s to fight for democracy I thought the communist are the greatest forgers but here we have it,
    it confirmed itself that are greater forgers than Communist historiography. Those are those “of mine” from VMRO
    which now inherited that option. Practically we have a state engineering which in three years replaced our slavic roots and turned us into ancient Macedonians. I have nothing nothing against when some historians are talking about writing books but the problem comes when the state takes that into its own hands.Then that looks like a
    totalitarian system.

    – former Prime Minister of FYROM, Ljubco Georgievski

  12. The “rants’ are what are coming from the patronizing Greek hating bigots that look the other way.

    “The history of the construction of a Macedonian national identity does not begin with Alexander the Great in the fourth century B.C. or with Saints Cyril and Methodius in the ninth century A.D. as Macedonian nationalist historians often claim”

    “Krste Misirkov, who had clearly developed a strong sense of his own personal national
    identity as a Macedonian and who outspokenly and unambiguously called for
    Macedonian linguistic and national separatism, acknowledged that a Macedonian
    national identity was a relatively recent historical development.”

    “The political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem
    not to have heard Misirkov’s call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather
    than Macedonians.” – US Anthropologist Loring Danforth – long time FYROM supporter, “The Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World”,
    Princeton Univ Press, December 1995

  13. Alex,

    You are so wrong and know nothing of U.S. foreign policy. Th alliance between the U.S. and Turkey is shaky at best. Here is a fact, instead of the rhetoric you post. A few months ago Turkey along with Pakistan closed it’s borders to the U.S. which prevented supplies from reaching U.S troops in the region. That obviously didn’t sit well with the U.S. and exposed the shaky alliance between the Muslim extremist government of Turkey and the U.S..

    Pompandreou, did more to damage U.S. relations as well as Greece’s economy as anyone. At that time the U.S. had very close ties to Greece. Pompandreou was a leftist radical college professor in the U.S. as a lot of U.S colleges have. Pompandreou turned his back on the U.S. and tried to instill socialist values on Greece which failed.

    Since Pompandreou left office the U.S. and Greece have been re-extablishing ties.

    The greatest threat to world peace is the radical Muslim religion that now runs several governments. It is a religion intolerant of other religions designed to conquer the world. Just look at world history for the past couple of centuries.

    The biggest danger to Greece right now is it’s government selling out to the Germans and Chinese.

  14. All you have done is evade the FYROM issue by going into a million different unrelated tangents. I don’t give a damn about your views on Greek-US relations when you can’t be botthered to denouce the US government for colluding with the Skopians.

    In the end, America (and many others) betrayed my country to the former Yugoslavians. Everyone pretends not to notice or tries to downplay their “minor” transformation into “ancient Macedonian”. Everyone tries to downplay their abuse of the name to insinutate my country is “occupied’.

    I no longer consider America or anyone that calls FYROM “Macedonia” our friends because they effectively silently collude with extremists that wish to ethnically eradicate Greeks. Friends don’t attempt to ethnically delete friends.

  15. Alex,
    Jeeeez Alex, you need to back off the caffeine. Relax.

    Maybe you would feel safer if you hid under your bed to protect yourself from Skopians that might try to sneak up on you and bite you in the ass.

    Just a suggestion.

  16. Just more evasion Robert. Not once have you addressed any of my points regarding the former Yugoslavians transformation into “descendents of ancient Macedonians” and irredentism. Not once have you addresses US unprincipled betrayal of Greeks to the former Yugoslavian.

    The very fact that instead of denoucing the behavior of the former Yugoslavains and their apologists your instead dishonerably try to mock me for stating the blatantly obvious attests to your very real bigotry against Greeks.

    You are no friend of the Greek people. By looking the other way masses of Greek hating bigots like you like you effectively collude with extremists from the former Yugoslavia trying to ethnically delete the Greek people.

    No country on earth would tolerate the behaviour of the former Yugoslavians if it was their own neighbours trying to usurp their identity while insinuating 1/3 of their country was “occupied”. Not one. FYROM and its apologists are evil.

  17. Theres is nothin that pleases germans, british, and americans more then seeing greeks and turks “Fight”.. the western powers profit much from this

  18. Alex,

    You are about as smart as a box of rocks. You continue to rant like a lunatic who obviously doesn’t have all his oars in the water. Your self proclaimed knowledge is seriously flawed by facts you obviously aren’t even aware of.

    I hate Greeks ? I’m living permanently in Greece you moron. I don’t hate Greeks, but I do hate idiots like you.

  19. That’s five posts in a row with you evasively avoiding the issue of FYROM and instead keep personally attacking me for pointing out the betrayal of the US and our alleged foreign “allies” on Skopian issue.

    Despite your claim that you don’t hate Greeks, if you hate me in pratice you hate most Greeks. Most Greeks are like me on this issue Robert. Strongly oppose dFYROM being called Macedonia. Unfortunately our alleged “allies” back stabbed us in favour of the Skopian propagandists.

    If you didn’t hate Greeks you wouldn’t keep evading the Skopian issue. You would denounce both them and their apologists for their subtle attempts to delete the Greek people. Again. Friends don’t attempt to commit genocide against friends..

  20. Alex,

    Respond to what ? Your lunatic off the wall theories ? I’ve already responded to them. My response was your rants, false claims, and ridiculous arguments, are without merit. Try reading a little slower for comprehension.

    You certainly know nothing about U.S. foreign policy. All you do is make spurious accusations regarding U.S. policy towards Greece.

    You also, obviously don’t know how much money the U.S. has invested in Greece and continues to invest.

    Try getting an education so you can make an argument or valid point in a coherent manner.

  21. The US government puts money into many countries (including the SKopians, Turkey, North Korea, Israel, Saudi Arabia, latin America, etc… etc..). They don’t do it for the benefit of the people in the country. They do it out of what they perceive as strategic self-interest.

    I would note yet again… you evading discussing US betrayal of Greek on FYROM issue. You evade dealing with issue of how FYROM nationalists have gone from being “communist demagoguery” (according to the US government itself), to “ethnic Macedonians”… to now descendents of ancient macedonians.

    You evade discussion of how mountains of FYROM nationalists use the name to insinuate Macedonia Greece is “occupied’ (egged on by state propaganda from their government) while all its disgusting apologists pretend not to notice (to dishonerably bury their mistake in calling them Macedonians)

    Friends don’t collude with extremists trying to ethnically eradicate friends. The don’t collude with extremists trying to annex 1/3 of the country of their friends . End of story.

    “We are Slavs. There’s no connection between us an alexander the Great. ” – Kiro Gligorov first elected President of FYROM

  22. What a surprise. More evasion.

    That you keep evading how the Skopians went from being “communist demagoguery” (according to the US itself).. to Slavic “ethnic Macedonians”… to in the last 5 years into “descendents of ancient Macedonians…. only illustrates you are a dishonerable Greek hating bigot. Sleep well at night bigot..

  23. Alex,

    Your tirades are becoming confusing and less rational.

    You keep mentioning dates, some of which are 70 years ago when this alleged stuff that has you all bent out of shape occurred.

    Are you a WW II vet sitting in some rest home that refuses to take his meds ?

    Your obsession seems to deal with some type of ethnic cleansing. Geeeeeeez Alex, I hope you aren’t attempting to re-establish the “master race” in Greece.

    There was a guy who’s first name started with an “A” just like yours. His attempt to establish a “master race” wasn’t very successful. Instead of blaming the Skopians, he blamed the Jews.

  24. I said nothing about “master race” you slanderous negative stereotyping bigot. Once again you keep evading my points and going into rants about me and Greeks.

    As for Hitler.. IMRO and Nazis were aligned during the war (see Ivan Mihailov leader of IMRO) Back then Americans used to MILITARILY support Greeks claiming no such thing as an ‘ethnic Macedonian exists.. . Today America takes the position the Nazis and later communists took on this Macedonia issue.

    Your lectures on racism while you silently collude with extremists in FYROM trying to ethnically eradicate Greeks isn’t very believable. Friends don’t attempt to commit genocide against friends.

    “This (US) government considers talk of Macedonian “nation”, Macedonian “Fatherland”, or Macedonia “national consciousness” to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees
    in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece” – US government 1944

    “We are Slavs. There’s no connection between us an Alexander the Great. ” – Kiro Gligorov first elected President of FYROM

    ‘We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great.’ – FYROM’S Ambassador Ljubica Acevshka, speech to US representatives in Washington on January 22 1999

  25. “It is no wonder that, in matters of politics in the Balkans, Greece feels misunderstood. It cannot understand why, after it stood alone with the United Kingdom against the forces of fascism between 28 October 1940–Ohi day, as it is still called–and 27 April 1941, when Athens finally fell, its former allies now appear to be taking the part of forces against which it stood, especially when, after the second world war, it endured those further four years of civil war to hold the line against the communist advance to the Aegean.

    That was done for the United States and for the United Kingdom especially–the world powers of the
    time–and those Governments objected, in 1944, to Tito’s change of the name of Vardar Banovina.” (House of Commons Hansard Debates for 9 May 1995)

  26. Blgots ike you that collude or have developed selective amnesia/visa with the Skopians have learned nothing from WW2. You’ve just found new scapegoats to hate in Greeks.

    “This (US) government considers talk of Macedonian “nation”, Macedonian “Fatherland”, or Macedonia “national consciousness” to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees
    in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece” – US government 1944

    “We are Slavs. There’s no connection between us an Alexander the Great. ” – Kiro Gligorov first elected President of FYROM

    ‘We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great.’ – FYROM’S Ambassador Ljubica Acevshka, speech to US representatives in Washington on January 22 1999

    ‘We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.’ – FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999

  27. Sure. That’s what Greece needs right now–war with Turkey. Ridiculous. You are a member of Golden Dawn Party (Λαϊκός Σύνδεσμος – Χρυσή Αυγή)?

  28. You are a member of Golden Dawn Party (Λαϊκός Σύνδεσμος – Χρυσή Αυγή), right?

  29. No moron. i suggest you learn nearn to read before accusing people of things.

    Do you claim to be “Greek”? Seeing as you are a new handle here, and clearly going back and reading my profile while instantly attacking me… my guess is not.

  30. I thought this article was about Greece getting its ass kicked by Turkey, and not about the Republic of Macedonia. Let’s try to stay on topic. Geez.

  31. Fake “Greex” are losing the battles everywhere… and they already lost the war. Like China which is preparing to take over Taiwan, same the Turks are patiently waiting and provoking the fake “Greex” to fall into the abyss…

  32. United Kurdistan is just an impossible dream. Kurds are multi-ethnic people which are from different ancestry according to genetic tests, on their people.

    Turkish: national name, not a racial name, multi ethnic but minimum %45 of Turkey are of Turkic origin, it’s maximum about %70-75.

    There are differences about the names Turkish and Turk(Turkic) between the mountains.

    You Greeks are comically just being pawn of west since many years, you’ve lost so many of your people and your lands. As you’re seeing on the news headlines, modern Greece also has temporary land.

    Dodecanese and West Thrace are in our Misak-ı Milli, then I guess we’ll just get it in the next war.

  33. So Mexico, Spain, Italy, Iraq, Japan and Vietnam will be good allies for us who’ve been invaded by the U.S. in the past. Turkic world and Iran too.

  34. Explain them all to your mom, perhaps she may believe it. Hahah!
    There are no any live source about what you said, all of them are dream product of anti-Turkish people. Wake up loser, we’ve defeated you with all of the people and kicked from Anatolia.
    If you wanna see genocidal, murderer people, go look at your Crusader invader bloody genocidal killer ancestors.