Cohabitation Agreement for Homosexual Couples



same sex coupleOnly few days after Greece was convicted by the Strasbourg Court, for the exclusion of homosexual couples from the cohabitation agreement, the Greek Government promotes a legislation that allows same-sex couples to contract such an agreement.

PASOK announced the filing of the legislation, clearly reflecting the position of the governments attitude on the issue.

According to official sources, the Greek government aims to regulate the Greek law with the European Convention for Human Rights and the avoidance of similar convictions for Greece.

The first positive step towards this direction came on Tuesday, after a meeting between the delegates of PASOK and the Minister of Justice, Charalambos Athanassiou, where the two parties discussed the issue.

The General Secretary of Ministry of Interior, Yiannis Ioannidis, stated that this legislation is an important step towards the fight against racism and discrimination. “The modern challenges that Greece must face are such that require the broadest possible consensus at least in elementary issues such as the way government deals with phenomena that threaten both citizens and democracy.” he added.

According to the European Court of Justice, out of 19 countries that have integrated legal forms for the union of couples into their law, only Lithuania and Greece have excluded homosexual couples from this legal protection.


20 COMMENTS

  1. Homosexual couples should have the same rights as heterosexual couples. Freedom is what it is is. A is A as Aristotle would say.

    Any Greek that opposes the rights of homosexuals is a pseudo-hellenist pseudo-patriot. The fact is ancient Hellenes had no issue with homosexuality. It was early fundamentalist Latin Roman christians that began persecution of homosexuals (christianity being a religion that was forced upon Europe by Latin Romans). Greeks that care about hellenism would not oppose equal rights for homosexuals. Even moderate christian concerned with hellenism would be open to it. Only Taliban-like christian fundamentalists will ultimate oppose this.

  2. You cannot dictate somebodies beliefs, and you cannot accuse them of being Anti-Hellenic because they do not follow your doctrine.
    Most Greeks that i know don’t worship the 12 Gods of Olympus so your link to the ancients has know weight being because the ancients were more tolerable of this behaviour makes us less “Hellenic”.

  3. Pretty sure ancient “homosexuality” was restricted to aristocrats and only allowed for men to love boys. The relationship ended when the boy grew a beard. So if you wish to use the ancient Greek example, then you’re advocating for pedophilia. The earliest evidence (Solon, Aeschylus, Anacreon and all the vases showing intimate scenes of the 6th century BC) all agree that intercourse was non-penetrative, and this is maintained up until the time of Socrates, when any lustful touching was not allowed at all. Ps. The Romans did it differently and had no restrictions, and Aristotle has some mean things to say about proper homosexual behavior in his Nichomachian and Eudemian ethics.

  4. Have you never heard of the Sacred Band of Thebes, “a troop of picked soldiers, consisting of 150 pairs of male lovers which formed the elite force of the Theban army” ?

    Were those soldiers little boys without a beard?

  5. What an idiot. You’d better go to iran or afghanistan if you fear an imminent destruction just because some people will have the right to obtain a civil union certificate.

  6. Unfortunately for you, yeah they were (Plutarch’s Life of Pelopidas, and Athenaeus). These texts, just like the rest use the terms erastes (lover) for the man and eromenos (one who is loved) for the adolescent boy. Never are the “homosexual” pairs called ‘lovers’, so sorry. For talk of the beard go read Theognis and Pindar (just to name off the top of my head). But probably you don’t know these sources; most people would rather read the romantic works of historians who giggle at seeing a vase with nude figures. Any other argument? I understand sticking up for the homosexual community, but history should not be distorted just for that reason.

  7. Some have argued is was for aristocrats but their arguments are tenuous at best. It is well establish homeosexuality was common in ancient Greek militaries. The exact rules of what was considered appropriate varied (e.g. some city states frowned on homosexuality in older men) but there are no laws against homosexuality in ancient Greece.

    This is quite unlike the behavior of some Greeks that claim to care about Hellenism but behave more like Taliban than Hellenes around gays issues.

  8. Well, you said: “Never are the “homosexual” pairs called ‘lovers’, so sorry.” However according to Athenaeus of Naucratis, the Sacred Band of Thebes was composed of “lovers and their favorites”.

    And according to Plato himself: “If there were only some way of contriving that a state or an army should be made up of lovers and their beloved, they would be the very best governors of their own city, […] What lover would not choose rather to be seen by all mankind than by his beloved, either when abandoning his post or throwing away his arms? He would be ready to die a thousand deaths rather than endure this. Or who would desert his beloved or fail him in the hour of danger?”.”

  9. Indeed history should not be distorted… which is exactly why any Greek that supports Hellenism should tolerate homosexuality. This is not the same as saying a Greek is required to cheer on homosexual behavior (an extreme our leftists engage in). The keyword here is *tolerance*. We tolerate other religions. We tolerate other political beliefs. We tolerate people that look different. We should tolerate homosexuality as well.

    The vast majority of ancient greeks were not homosexuals. Many frowned upon the behavior. However they did tolerate it. That’s all I’m saying here. Give them the same rights as everyone else. Unless some is a closest homosexual that fears they wouldn’t be able to resist, I really don’t see a problem.

  10. Criticize the homophobes bu taking an overgeneralize shot at the Greek church is bigotry as well. Don’t fall into the trap of the anti-nationalist leftists who in their quest to show everyone how they are tolerant to everyone else end up intolerant towards Greeks.

  11. I meant ‘lovers’ as in referring to a couple, not lovers as in the plural of the term erastes. Lovers and favourites = erastes (plural) and eromenos (plural). Same with Plato, lovers and beloveds = erastes (plural) and eromenos (plural). What are you trying to argue – I said that previously? “Homosexual” couples were comprised of one erastes and one eromenos. Plato’s Symposium is indeed the inspiration for the Sacred Band, and that text is all about men loving boys. Indeed you prove my point…I’m just relaying what the ancient Greeks themselves said. If you don’t like what they say, then…

  12. In my estimation the evidence suggest that both the ancient Greek gods and modern Christian one are both myths. (a position I would add that many literate ancient Greeks would have agree upon – see Euripides, Aristophanes, Epicurus or any number of Sophists) However, if someone wants to believe in some god… and they claim to be speaking about Hellenism… they better be listen to the advice of Gemistus Pletho advice if they want their opinions on Hellenism to be taken seriously.

    Don’t get me wrong here. Although I am a non-believer I am not against our church. The modern Greek state would not have existed without the efforts of our church and we owe them that. I support our church far more than our treasonous communists (many of whom have talked themselves right out of their Greek identity into a “worker” identity). I’m just saying that if a Greek wants to be true to Hellenism even our church has to be taken with a grain of salt.

    After all ancient Hellenes opposed Christianity. It was a religion forced on Greece (and Europe) by ancient Latin Romans. They were like the Taliban at the time. Closed the Olympics. Closed temples to ancient Gods. Even closed the neo-platonic academy in Athens. It was only later that Greek christians tried to recover hellenism but extensive damage had been done. Since that time, at least some of us keep trying to repair Greece.

  13. How are they tenuous? And what ancient sources establish homosexuality in the Greek military? Do you mean the Spartans? You’d be proven wrong by the following authors: Xenophon, Plurach, Aelian, Maximus of Tyre. Of course if men are confined with men in such conditions, homosexual behaviour is increased, yet such a thing can be said of any other military all over the world throughout time. How is such an assumption iconic of the Greeks? All cities frowned on homosexuality between older men…the only example we have of such a couple is Agathon and Pausanias, who are attacked by Aristophanes and other comics, and even here Agathon kept clean-shaven so as to pass himself off in public as an adolescent boy and so adhere to the Greek system.

  14. You quote authors without explaining what they said that you believe convincingly proves your point it was limited to aristocrats. There is extensive evidence that homosexuality was common in file and rant military (which obviously was not made up of just aristocrats)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece

    I already said that some frowned on older men having homosexual behavior. For the most part ancient Greeks didn’t see homosexuality in the sense we see it today. It was usually a thing between young boys and men far less so between two consenting adults.

    However, this doesn’t mean they didn’t (legally) tolerate the latter even if they frowned upon it. Can you point to a single law against homosexuality or a single example of a Greek being legally prosecuted specifically for homosexual behavior?

  15. I never once said it was against the law, just not socially acceptable. However, in Aristophanes’ play ‘The Knights’, a reference is made to a real man called Gryphus who loses his citizenship because he had penetrative intercourse with a boy. Intriguing. You criticize my sources and then embarrass yourself by referencing Wikipedia? The sources are: Xenophon ‘Constitution of the Lacedaemonians’ + ‘Symposium’, Plutarch ‘Life of Lycurgus’, Aelian ‘Historical Miscellany’ and Maximus ‘Orations’. Look them up yourself and you’ll see the discrepancy between them and what modern historians weave.